KF_Chris

from what I can guess, the Kawi and Honda subframe (f4i and 636) are pieces of square tubing, welded and bolted together. that makes it strong. Suzuki (in weight savings) used garbage pot metal cast in the shape they needed, which is decent for what the bike was intended for.

jsteezy

i try to stay away from running a bar from the pass peg to rearset.ive seen tabs break and ive seen bars bend/warp from hitting the factory swingarm reinforcement after doing stoppies.

skillz954

That sucks Bro, but it gives you a reason to beef it up now. Post some pics when you get a chance!!

KF_Chris

yeah, I'll try to get pics soon. hopefully have it fully repaired soon. it's good enough to ride as it is now.

EZEC

i braced mine for about $12....after breaking 2 subframes...one with a bar one without...

KF_Chris

Tim sent me the pics, in the second one, you can see Ho Hey trying no handers (which he's got pretty down)

G!N+T0N!K

ha not annother subframe, all us gixxer owners need to collect up all our f*ed up subframes and dump them at zukes front office. then ghost ride our bikes though thier biznasses

r6nitup

how well do the scrape works subframes hold up??? and is it worth getting?

TheLot

They hold up very good, they are steel!! But you still have to reinforce them somewhere because if you hit it hard you will brake your frame tabs. Best thing I recommend is a piece of steel going from 12 bar to swingarm pivot bolt.

bmorebikestuna

do a 02 600 have the same problem?
am about to buy one price 3,900 should i?
heres a pic of it

bmorebikestuna

if takes $50 to make it stronger i guess thats not a problem?

people dont even tell me to get a f4i

TheLot

the 02 600 body style doesnt have the same problem as the newer. But it does have different problems. Like the subframe tabs and the frame tabs can and will break. As well as the frames crack pretty easily from repetitive endoes and wheelies. But all in all its a good bike, I learned on a 03 750. I think the price for that bike is a little high if you plan on using it primarily for a stunt bike though. Either way good luck!!


Brian D

bmorebikestuna

thanks so i should just weld some spots and it will be fine?

KF_Chris

for the subframe tabs, you can weld a block of aluminum behind the mounting points and have the bolts run through it to make it stronger