How'd you learn the HB
03-10-2006 | 06:47 PM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
Originally Posted by JohnnyP
Id leave it you get the best power and feel from the HB when its as far up on the bar as possible, if he moves it out he wont have good leverage and it will be weak
+1 very true
wheeliest... your setup looks exactly like mine besides the chopped hb lever... this is the only way to make it work w/ an asv. I just re-bled mine and gettin out for some nice 60 degree weather this wkend
03-11-2006 | 05:45 AM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
Originally Posted by Z-UNIT
i dont understand this argument...you dont need to cover both the hb and clutch at the same time until u doing off peg coasters....doing that just gives u less grip and less stretgth to pull in either lever...clutch it up and move ur middle finger under the clutch to the hb...ull be fine...when it gets time for SS coasters, then get an msr...until then ur fine
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03-14-2006 | 02:35 AM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
**Update**--ok i just got the handbrake thing down. I decided to just say fuuk it, jump up onto the seat and clutch it up--took me about an hour to get it down good and a full day to start feeling comfy. Good stuff fellas!!
03-14-2006 | 11:51 AM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
Originally Posted by nshighfly
Is it better to have the HB lever on the bottom, and the cluch lever on top? Is this the way the combo should be run ? -thanks
makes best sense when you think about th eangle your hand naturally sits at when you are higher up on the bike (i.e. when you cant reach the foot brake)
03-14-2006 | 12:49 PM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
Originally Posted by nshighfly
Is it better to have the HB lever on the bottom, and the cluch lever on top? Is this the way the combo should be run ? -thanks
03-16-2006 | 10:13 AM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
Originally Posted by kolour-me-carbo
make it easy from the start, put in some workshop time getting the clutch as light-pull as possible (gotta be one-finger effortless). Buy a new, longer cable and route it around and away from headstock junk. Weld in 10mm extra length to the actuator lever on the case, buy new plates/basket, set it on the verge of clutch-slip.
Adjust the different positions for the levers so you can use both levers with one finger on each, without having to adjust your 2finger grip on the bar when you're using either lever. Index finger on really cut-down clutch lever. middle finger on super-bled brake-lever.
Get that setup right and use it in regular riding. After that it just becomes as natural as using the conventional m'cycle levers you've always lived with. I do't even have to think handbrake now, the skill is in the setting the levers up. If you do need to shuffle your fingers about to operate either lever - the setup still ain't right.
03-16-2006 | 12:33 PM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
where can I look into getting the EZ Pull for the clutch? I have my clutch on the bottom (asv) lever and the brake on top. It was kinda hard to get used to while in a high chair but it feels real natural when I am on a ss or on the rear pegs. My finger tends to naturally rest there because that's where my clutch was for years. I just wanted to make it feel as natural as possible so I got used to it.
I have thought about switching it but I am using the Motor Heaven set up that ties into the FB. At first I didn't like the set up I was used to my 636 second caliper set up but now I love it. It just doesn't give me many set up options.
Oh well
S&@# it's 48 and sunny here Im gonna put some time in.
I love sunny days off.
I have thought about switching it but I am using the Motor Heaven set up that ties into the FB. At first I didn't like the set up I was used to my 636 second caliper set up but now I love it. It just doesn't give me many set up options.
Oh well
S&@# it's 48 and sunny here Im gonna put some time in.
I love sunny days off.
03-16-2006 | 12:55 PM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
Originally Posted by 187mustang
They make a pulley style box you can buy. A lot or track racers use them. it has a box with some cable style pulley system in it, two cables one goes from the lever to the box. the other cable goes from the box to the clutch. then when you pull the clutch in it makes it real light. you can use one finger and it barely feels like there is even a clutch at the other end of the cable. I seen it for sale a while back at speedshop. I'll see if i can find one or the name and send a link. it may be worth the wait and make life easier.
Edit: I just don't trust those things, a local guys broke seconds after landing from a rev limiter coaster. And I've heard of them breaking on other people before.
03-17-2006 | 09:58 AM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
Just hooked up my Magura jack hydrolic clutch, ASV shorty lever, and ASV rotator clamp. 1 finger easy, no cable fraying dirtbike levers. It also has a nice engagement area. Lever pull isn't too long, but it still has a nice area to slip the clutch. I also think it makes the lever pull more linear over it's travel.
03-18-2006 | 11:53 AM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
Originally Posted by Nick Apex
I second that, those things (easy pull boxes) are bad news, my friends broke too and hes all about limiter coasters, bad times, bad times.
03-18-2006 | 06:02 PM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
Fuuk the easy pull boxes-you gotta have exceptional grip to stunt-and if your clutch lever is too tight to pull with one finger, then your clutch cable is either routed incorrectly or its not properly lubricated.
-Alvin
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03-18-2006 | 06:19 PM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
Originally Posted by Armenian
Fuuk the easy pull boxes-you gotta have exceptional grip to stunt-and if your clutch lever is too tight to pull with one finger, then your clutch cable is either routed incorrectly or its not properly lubricated.
-Alvin
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couldn't of said it better..
03-19-2006 | 03:26 AM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
Originally Posted by NINER
Just hooked up my Magura jack hydrolic clutch, ASV shorty lever, and ASV rotator clamp. 1 finger easy, no cable fraying dirtbike levers. It also has a nice engagement area. Lever pull isn't too long, but it still has a nice area to slip the clutch. I also think it makes the lever pull more linear over it's travel.
it seems to me that it's not so much that the asv is a bad clutch lever (i know that's not what you meant either) but it's more that radial hb's and asv levers don't go good together. i tried a friend's msr/954 master and it feels tight, like real tight. the good thing about those ones is since they're non radial none of that shiet is in the way, and even though i haven't used it personally i can tell it has a lot of grab. he does ss effortlessly, and ss circles comin along nicely as well.
03-20-2006 | 10:01 AM
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Re: How'd you learn the HB
Originally Posted by Cesario
that sounds like a money *** setup man, you got pics?
it seems to me that it's not so much that the asv is a bad clutch lever (i know that's not what you meant either) but it's more that radial hb's and asv levers don't go good together. i tried a friend's msr/954 master and it feels tight, like real tight. the good thing about those ones is since they're non radial none of that shiet is in the way, and even though i haven't used it personally i can tell it has a lot of grab. he does ss effortlessly, and ss circles comin along nicely as well.
it seems to me that it's not so much that the asv is a bad clutch lever (i know that's not what you meant either) but it's more that radial hb's and asv levers don't go good together. i tried a friend's msr/954 master and it feels tight, like real tight. the good thing about those ones is since they're non radial none of that shiet is in the way, and even though i haven't used it personally i can tell it has a lot of grab. he does ss effortlessly, and ss circles comin along nicely as well.
