Originally Posted by NINER

Euro's are better showman by far. American riders are all about being Gangsta's and take them selves too seriously witht the exception of Patrick. Why do yo uthink he books so many shows? Because people are buying the whole Uncle Hucklebuck Circus, not just a guy who does wheelies. The Euros take it one step further and get the crowd pumped. Most american riders ignore the crowd or just honk the horn at the middle/end of the run, which I find more annoying than anything else.

Originally Posted by NINER

Why do people like watching Nick Hill ride? Same reason they like watching NASCAR......They are waiting for the crash. Nick LOOKS like he is out of control when he rides which makes you THINK he is going to crash.

Originally Posted by Red

Stunt competitions and stunt shows are two very different things. It's like comparing apples to oranges. At a comp, you're trying to win and be as technical as possible, with combos and tech tricks. At a show, the crowd just wants to see a good show, not 500 circles in a row. They don't give a crap about tech stuff. They want danger, smoke and wrecks.

Originally Posted by GSE Nick

three words i hear when at a show and only three words DO A BURNOUT!...so now when i go to shows i bring a few spare tires! haha simple as that lol. crowd interaction is a great thing too, like games and such with other riders like last man standing sitting highchair pushing each other off bike and stuff. non-stunt riders don't know the difficulty of the tricks. like there's a guy at my work who swears his boy can ride 100 times better than me cause he can do a wheelie 3 miles long going 120mph....i don't even try to argue either no point...lol

Originally Posted by Darius

I've got a new outlook on stunt competitions and how the general public and even mild enthusiast views our performances. I've done a few shows lately in front of a large non motorcycle audience's. I stood back in the crowd at stuntwars watching peoples runs and seeing what got the most attention from the people. There were alot of riders even big name guys that did some difficult tricks and the crowd was silent? Pfieffer comes by on the trials bike looking at the crowd doing a sit down wheelie pointing at them and they go crazy. Now most of us know it's about as hard as doing a one handed wheelie on a xr-50. Definatly not as hard or technical than someone busting combos on a big bike down the track but I saw many people do it and it was crickets in the stands! I love doing circles combo's, getting into highchairs and back out just because it's challenging to me when I'm riding and that makes it fun. But the crowd could probably care less about basic circles combos. I'm sure they would like to see getting in n out of highchair but you would most likely get the same response from them doing a circle with one handing off waving at them smiling. You can look at Pfieffers run at SW, nothing too technical about it but the crowd loved it and I thought it was sick too when I watched it from the stands. Just like Ac farias, the guy doesnt have a big bag of tricks but the tricks he does do he's got on lock and makes it look good. The 180 stoppie to wheelie then circle is the like standard trick for the euros. The more I think about it I realize it really doesnt matter what kind of bike you ride either. You could probably win stuntwars on a bone stock bike if you had your **** planned out right. What's the point of riding 600cc bikes now? Nobody gives a **** about the technical little tricks you can do on them and really it's not that exciting to watch besides a few tricks. I'm thinking I'm gonna go back to a bone stock 06 1000rr besides some gearing, cage, dampner etc. I figure I could pull off a sick enough run on it to entertain any crowd. I got into riding because of the speed not the stunts and riding a 180hp bike vs barely 100hp is way funner. Watching someone kill it on a bike like that I believe would be more entertaining. If we start gearing our sport towards the tricks that makes the crowds go ooohhhhh I believe it will get us where we want to be. I mean what the's point of wasting your time on technical **** when someone could skitch off the back and get the crowd going 10 times more? Any thoughts??

Originally Posted by Nick Apex

don't forget to crash...

Originally Posted by chad stuntmetal

I believe that the level of riding has reached a point where most everybody is doing the same circle combos , no handers , etc. It is all about style and being out of control

Originally Posted by Kaneone

good point... from what ive seen of stuntwars crashing gains you a whole level of bonus points like it was its own catagorey of grade:

acro
wheelie
burnout
endo
wreck

DOH i knew i forgot to add something to my routine!

-kane