Well, the officer doesnt know that because he died you idiot. Dam dude. An officer dies because his tire blew out and all you can say is "**** that stupid pig." RIP

 

AMEN!!!!! DONT GET ME WRONG EITHER! THAT SENTENCE IS THE MOST UNFAIR THING IVE EVER SEEN. COMPLETE BULLSHIT THAT SHOULD BE APPEALLED!!!!!!!!! But i agree with Max. Everyone here is a ****in hypocrit! If the rider died you'd all be saying "its the cops fault for chasing." YOU ALL KNOW THE LAW, SO QUIT *****ING LIKE LITTLE PUSSIES WHEN A COP DOES HIS JOB AND TRIES TO UPHOLD IT!!!!! I GET SO MAD SEEING PEOPLE TRASH TALKING A DEAD COP WHO DIED DOING HIS JOB. THIS WHOLE "FTP" SAYING IS JUST A TRENDY FAD NOW. RIP TO THE OFFICER AND I HOPE THAT BULLSHIT SENTENCE GETS WAAAAAY FIXED SOON!!! SAFE RIDING TO ALL

 

+1


He still commited the same crime whether the cop died or didnt, he was fleeing and eluding and that is all. I dont see how the intent of a crime is found just because of a faillure on the officers car. If the cop doesnt die he gets probation and a fine. The officers irresponsiblity is just as great the riders. He chose to irresponsible chase a hayabusa at 100mph +. This is not right and hopefully an appeal will go through.

 

+1000....

rider shouldnt have ran

Cop shouldnt have chased....

nuff said...they both ****ed up. The rider should get more than a slap on the wrist, and i do feel that time in jail is deserved...but not 30 years..the cop was trying to do his job, he didnt think it out before he acted....thats not the riders fault...that rider cannot control the free will of the cop, or that the tire blew....but a cop died, and as lots of u have heard before, cops want blood for dead cops....

 

I dont think the guy should get any jail time unless that is what is given for running in his state...

 

exactly.............the crime he committed is still only fleeing and eluding....where do these prosecuters find criminal intent?

 

Of course it would be different if it were the other way around. A cop in my town blew a red light going to a call and killed 2 innocent people in the car. He got a one week paid vacation for it (administrative leave).

What if the cop had lived and killed the people in the car he hit? Oh, well that's ok then... he wasn't doing anything reckless... flying around 100 mph endangering EVERYONE for a $125 speeding ticket.

 

YOU ARE A DUMBASS,you made this post and another post saying your " all about standups on the freeway and doing 135 in a 55" if this is true than your just as guilty as him

 

moral of the story is always have good tires

 

Ive never ran from the cops! Ive been pulled over many times and never once have I thought about givin a little twist and leave the cop behind...
Only so much you can do in lots...

 

if your doin 80mph pass the speed limit there a good chance you wont even see the cop .

do you actually think he deserves 30 years in a pound me in the *** prison?

 

people in cars still think they can catch a bike , why i dont know it might be a ego trip thing mabe they want to feel cool to say i made a bike stop so better not mess with me.

the officer was out of his mind for chasing the motorcycle and thinking it would turn out good.

the motorcyclist should of gotten his liscence taken away for reckless driving but def not go to jail for murder or manslaughter cuz theres no way u can tell me he was speeding hoping that a car cop would chase him at 130mph and die

30 yrs **** the judge cuz if this was me right now i would stop the i'm sorry bullshit i'm not sorry cuz i did not kill him i did not even point a weapon at him to kill him i would be receiving sentencing and saying to the family thats terrible u'r husband died but i did not kill him and sending me to jail for 30 yrs sure as hell not going to stop the next hundred cops who try to chase a motorcycle

i'm tired of this bullshit hit some kids and drag them under u'r car and kill them and u get a smack on the wrist and u speed away and a cop chases he runs over a nail his tire blows out and u send me to jail for 30 yrs **** the court **** the family

in fact **** everybody this is my 15 minutes of ignorance.


BY THE WAY OFF SUBJECT I DONT KNOW WHATS WRONG WITH PEOPLE U FIGHT WITH A GUN DAY IN AND DAY OUT BUT THEN U GET SHOT AT AND U GET MAD WHATS WRONG WITH U PEOPLE IF U CAN DISH IT OUT WHY ARE U SO SHOCKED WHEN OTHER DUMB ASSES CARRY GUNS TOO AND SHOOT BACK AT U TOO..

 

wow............I know a few cops and of course have asked them about the power trip....

they all say thats why they do what they do......THE RUSH.

1)the rider made his decision...run

2)the officer made his decision...chase

I'am sure they both had some realization of the possible out come.

I agree the rider should not be persacuted for the faliure of the cruiser. i don't know the chase laws in that state ,in my city they cant pass 65mph but I assure u they do... plain and simple, there is no way they were going to go that route in the court room. either way, sux fat donkey ***** from either side of that coin. get a better lawyer and appeal & RIP

 

I dont think that the police officer used good judgment...

 

So guys...Who's fault is it if the rider died? Please just answer with a 'the cop or the biker.'

-Max.

 

Donald Williams, 39, who admitted he drove upward of 100 mph on Oct. 2, 2004, lost his freedom. On Friday, Circuit Judge R. Michael Hutcheson sentenced Williams to 30 years in prison on charges of aggravated manslaughter and aggravated fleeing and eluding a law-enforcement officer causing death.

Here is another kicker the officer had 20 years on the force... That will change everything right there think about it... Judge R. Michael Hutcheson would have know this guy in one way or another so it was personal.


In all truth if the biker had lost it and ran his bike into a car of citizens and killed someone it would have been the exact same thing... aggravated manslaughter which can still get you 15-20... but since he got the fleeing charge thats another 5... Williams who had been ticketed six times in eight years, had no criminal record before... Williams was stopped in St. Johns County later that same day, when his motorcycle tire went flat. He confessed that he had accelerated to 100 mph when he saw the trooper on the side of the interstate.

he tried to run its his fault...

besides he can appeal it get out in 15-20 for good behavior... it wont be 30 straight


my sources

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...dlines-volusia

http://www.news-journalonline.com/Ne...AD02120305.htm


I believe the ruling is harsh... since he has had no priors.

 

This a$$holes a ****ing cop.....!!!!!!

 

the crime commited by the motorcyclists doesn't match up with his sentence.
Cold blooded, meditated murderers HAVE gotten 20 years and less before by plea bargaining.

The justice system IS slanted on any issue dealing with police because in an ideal world they are here to "protect and serve" the public and look out for the public's interest.

The cop made a poor decision in continuing the chase at such high speeds, the biker made a poor choice running from the cop at such high speeds. The biker did not shoot or the cops tire or try to get the cop to hit a car or tree, and I'm sure he did not wish or desire the cop to wreck his vehicle.

The rider committed Felony Eluding, he was hit with these charges, and they stuck because a cop/husband/father died...and there is no way the courts would allow that to happen without someone paying dearly for it.

Imagine the responses if the exact same happenings occured and all he got was a $1000 fine and year in jail. The family, police force, and everyone else involved would have been outraged and the police forces in that area would have it out hard for anyone riding a sportbike.....no warnings, straight to jail and impounded bikes for anyone who pulls even the smallest wheelie.

Not saying its right, BUT IT IS expected. In the public's eye and in a jury's eyes, a cop's and firefighter's lives are worth more than yours or mine.....so you can expect the punishment for them getting hurt or passing away is gonna reflect that view.

 

I would consider it the bikers fault primarily to a point and some blame would be shifted to the officer if the chase became excessively dangerous(100+mph, dangerous intersections, heavy traffic,.....).

Its illegal to do whatever the biker is doing to get pulled over for, and its illegal to run, plus we all know EVERYONE would run, if they knew the chase would automatically be called off if they ran instead of pulling over. But once the chase becomes too dangerous the cop needs to call it off.

 

No doubt the cop should call off a dangerous chase. You know what it's all about, but most people here don't.

Basically, he's guilty by assosciation. I bet if the rider died, even on a straight line country road, most of the people here would blame the cop for ya know, trying to bring down a criminal.

Sorry guys, but the cold hard fact is, you break the law, you become a criminal. You all think since your on a bike and have a better chance to get away, that you should be aloud. You all seem to forget that when you are doing excessive speeds and lose control of your bike you become a threat to society, so why shouldn't you be busted? Do you know what a 400lb bike will do at high speeds to another car, or person, or KID for that matter? You are just as much a threat as the cop, except your the cause for the whole ordeal.

Yes, I have ran, and will continue to if I know I can get away with it. But I know who's to blame if I don't.

-Max.