If we build it will you come?
10-17-2005 | 07:54 PM
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Re: If we build it will you come?
from a non-pro's point of view .... I would def make the trip, make sure there is room for people to save some loot between major events - looks like you already thought of that though by saying about 3 months after stuntwars ....
10-17-2005 | 08:32 PM
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Re: If we build it will you come?
Originally Posted by nwstuntbike
and i know ome of these sacrafices suck sometimes ,but if we really want to keep this thing going for generations to come we are the ones who need to do teh dirty work here,yeah that kinda blows some of us may not get to ride in the ''big show'' if it ever makes it there,''i.e.x-games and so on'', but i'd be happy with kickin back sayin yeah i had a part in making this what it is today by making sacrifices and taking chances, sorry if it sounds cheezy but thats the way i feel 
-Max.
10-18-2005 | 12:28 AM
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Re: If we build it will you come?
I want to thank everyone for making this a damn good post. John, I was actually thinking about running the endo comp in a bracket format. I feel that two people running at a time would build extra excitement and really get the crowd into the event. Still not sure if that format will prevail but its been an idea of mine for a long time. Your mention helps it sound something the riders may want. That in mind what do people think about it? How it would line up is still up in the air with plenty of time to hash out the details so specifics on how it would be run are to come.
If we do a bracket format I may consider a coaster competition, would there be rider interest? I don't think it would be a forerunner for things to come but in a bracket format I feel it an interesting watch from a spectators point of view. If people can suffer though a nohanded comp then they should be able to enjoy coasters in the correct format.
Ryan, I respect this man, he has one of the most important points about the judging format. The plan as of now is to incorporate the standard action sport criteria.
1. Variety - 1 judge will look for all variation of tricks.
2. Difficulty - 1 judge to oversee it was taken to its most difficult level.
3. Execution - 1 judge looking for flow and style.
10 point system per category, no bullshit.
Kane: For judges, hell that should be high on my list, right now its number 20. Thomas said it best, Gorka would be a great choice, and there are many others that I will put some serious thought into asking, for you that know me personally, you know I will be fair about the choice if nothing else.
If we do a bracket format I may consider a coaster competition, would there be rider interest? I don't think it would be a forerunner for things to come but in a bracket format I feel it an interesting watch from a spectators point of view. If people can suffer though a nohanded comp then they should be able to enjoy coasters in the correct format.
Ryan, I respect this man, he has one of the most important points about the judging format. The plan as of now is to incorporate the standard action sport criteria.
1. Variety - 1 judge will look for all variation of tricks.
2. Difficulty - 1 judge to oversee it was taken to its most difficult level.
3. Execution - 1 judge looking for flow and style.
10 point system per category, no bullshit.
Kane: For judges, hell that should be high on my list, right now its number 20. Thomas said it best, Gorka would be a great choice, and there are many others that I will put some serious thought into asking, for you that know me personally, you know I will be fair about the choice if nothing else.
10-18-2005 | 03:33 AM
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Re: If we build it will you come?
Originally Posted by got circles?
bracket for endo! do you know how many fool's would flip trying to out roll the guy next to them 
All the while keeping the crowd riveted to their seats! You know crashes are what they want to see, even though stoppie crashes really suck to be a part of.
10-18-2005 | 04:02 AM
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Re: If we build it will you come?
Originally Posted by Kyle_PBZ
All the while keeping the crowd riveted to their seats! You know crashes are what they want to see, even though stoppie crashes really suck to be a part of.
yes i agree
10-18-2005 | 10:04 AM
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Re: If we build it will you come?
Originally Posted by DSOG Thomas
im not giving away any more free advice... but i will come announce since im not good enough for stuntwars
get off your own nuts you ******!!
nick, judging on a 10 pt system is TOO simple...there will be too much of a chance for ties...i suggest using the xsba rules or something similiar. i have some other suggestions that i'll pm you.
10-18-2005 | 01:17 PM
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Re: If we build it will you come?
Originally Posted by TEACH C6
get off your own nuts you ******!!
nick, judging on a 10 pt system is TOO simple...there will be too much of a chance for ties...i suggest using the xsba rules or something similiar. i have some other suggestions that i'll pm you.
nick, judging on a 10 pt system is TOO simple...there will be too much of a chance for ties...i suggest using the xsba rules or something similiar. i have some other suggestions that i'll pm you.
I second that. XSBA format seems to work fairly well. It worked well at our event.
10-19-2005 | 02:54 AM
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Re: If we build it will you come?
I'm going to put some time into how the xsba was setup and see if there is anything I can "borrow" to make this event as successful as possible. Thanks everyone!
10-19-2005 | 03:22 AM
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Re: If we build it will you come?
Originally Posted by john LegionST
wise man! i agree, maybe not that team events should disappear but they should definately take a backseat (especially in payouts) to Ind. freestyle and other Ind. events.
10-19-2005 | 07:51 AM
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Re: If we build it will you come?
Originally Posted by Brian~11
I concur. I also think that the team events are good for the fans. The Fans enjoy all the chaos involved with it.
team events should only have a big enough payout to cover travel expenses for the winning team........ sorta like a bonus event
put the money into individual freestyle......
and weight the judging towards a well put together and executed run..... with difficulty multipliers sorta...........
kinda like diving does....... hard to explain....... especially for someone like me!
oh and also
concur is a stupid word
.org!
10-19-2005 | 03:55 PM
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Re: If we build it will you come?
I Agree? 
Sclevela your an A$$JACK!
Fire would be good, Fans like fire.
If the Fans are numeber one priority, you got to cater to them. What do we know about them from past experience doing shows and comps? The Fans enjoy high speed acros, wheelies, stoppies and burnouts. (and burnouts prob the most) They enjoy the crashing as well, noone plans on this so?
So, if you take away a team ride or comp, who is going to cater to the Fans? You got a short time in individual and noone is going to waste there time doing high speed tricks or burnouts,Theyre going to be doing more slow technical tricks going by past events.
I agree with were the sport is going and the other sports dont have team event. They have something you dont though and it grabs peoples attention. They got big air to keep the fans on edge. As a Fan all the slow and technical tricks are fine and fun to watch but after a day of it, you become board. Thats why I think the team event should be kept, action for the Fans. You can have payouts less or just hire a couple of teams to put a show on.
Sclevela your an A$$JACK! Fire would be good, Fans like fire.
If the Fans are numeber one priority, you got to cater to them. What do we know about them from past experience doing shows and comps? The Fans enjoy high speed acros, wheelies, stoppies and burnouts. (and burnouts prob the most) They enjoy the crashing as well, noone plans on this so?
So, if you take away a team ride or comp, who is going to cater to the Fans? You got a short time in individual and noone is going to waste there time doing high speed tricks or burnouts,Theyre going to be doing more slow technical tricks going by past events.
I agree with were the sport is going and the other sports dont have team event. They have something you dont though and it grabs peoples attention. They got big air to keep the fans on edge. As a Fan all the slow and technical tricks are fine and fun to watch but after a day of it, you become board. Thats why I think the team event should be kept, action for the Fans. You can have payouts less or just hire a couple of teams to put a show on.
