martino

I wanted to share a revalation I had today... For the last 6 months circles have been killing me, I've been stuck at 3/4 turn... then today I knocked out 3 easily after changing up a few things.
Heres my public service announcement for people starting to learn circles

For me left turns on from the pass peg have been impossible. Today I tried foot in the seat and to the right. It was night and day.

I started doing 50 foot circles, and within 10 passes, I was getting them to 30 feet. Half an hour later, I had consistent 15 foot circles with a few tight ones.

Theres a few things inherently easier about this. You can hang 100% weight to the right. Foot in the seat gives you such a benefit of your weight.

You just kinda stare at the pavement 20 feet out and to the right and shift your body weight out to the right and the b1tch turns in. IVe heard circles described as little turns put seamlessly into a smooth circle. When your doing the giant 50foot sweeping circles, you can practice the 'dip it in, straighten it out' that will eventually make up the circle.

I kept my weight to the right the whole time and just countersteered the bike in and out of the circle.

THe only sucky thing about the foot in the seat, is that its a bad place to be if the bike wants to jump away from you. I got in the habit of nailing the kill switch when i start to mess up, I'd rather have it mousetrap than have it shoot out or highside

Michael D Rickman

sounds like your steering not circling,

Darius

Those are called CBo circles

martino

holy hell, darius wrote to my lowly thread.

yea its definitely steering for me at this point, but its teaching me the fundamentals of dropping into the circle, and pulling it out

UNIDENTIFIED

ouch.... buuuuurn

Michael D Rickman

i think it's teaching you bad habit's,but that's just my

MATT L

We call those Fircles, ask Pawpaw about em ....but congrats on the improvement though

jowalskiMO

yup. I agree. Steering circles arent gonna do anything but teach you bad habits. Try and watch some video of someone doing circles/going into them....Thats what helped me. Through watching AZ do em, I learned that you actually throw/lean the bike into the circle to get it started instead of letting it turn how it wants......

Mikie

You have to "work" 10X harder going right IMO. The main benefit is you can use your entire body to recover from mistakes.

RUSH.

You are gonna unlearn everything you have so far if you keep doing those in my opinion. Keep trying them the way you were, its hard but but what your doing isnt really circles and its not helping you learn the mechanics of real circles

jeffy0630

Bad habits are hard to break thats how my bro learned to do em and tried to show me I thought they were dumb then once i learned them he took forever to finally learn them the right way I would just keep praticin the right way till you learn em

Jordo636

ROFL, na they are FIRCLES

silverstunterR6

CBo circles that hilarious like these are CBo step (a gay merk step)

richierokit

To learn a trick wrong only to have to turn around and learn it right seems crazy to me. my boy was turning to the right just like you are talking about. so the other day i figured it was time to get on up, so i got em slow on the idle, just like i've reasd in a couple of threads, blew my nuts up 5 sizes and dipped it in to the left, about 10 or 15 trys later, i could getem 360! Now don't get me wrong, I still cant circle, but I got the first half down!!!!! Now as soon as I figure out how to get it straightened back out and ride away, I'll be happier than a pig in poop!!!!! Oh well, of to practice practice practice!!!

martino

I'm totally with you guys that its not a real circle. but it feels like a good place to learn

Start out with some big 50 footers just so you get comfortable with the idea of turning and straightening. you get it tighter pretty quick. I got lucky and had some clean tight ones no more than 15 feet.

one thing for sure, it felt damn good to feel that sucker turning underneath you

Lb3

yup, practice. To come out, just gas it and it will stand up. This is tricky at first. When you are in a circle and you gas it too hard it will try to highside or do a little S-curve on ya and its probably going to go far enough past the balance point that you cant get it back down and back into the bp before it stalls. Pull in the clutch to kill the drive to the outside as the bike starts to stand up out of the circle. You can pause with the brake and then ride it away. practice practice.

jowalskiMO

yup, i still stick to "If someone can stand in the middle and film, or your not going 20mph, it isn't a circle"