Anti-Loop Device electronic Safety Equiptment
#21
Re: Anti-Loop Device electronic Safety Equiptment
an anti loop device is likely a really bad idea if it has something to do w/ killing fuel or electrical. There's gonna be alot MORE garbage riders out skidding on their heads on the freeway if that device sells.
Think about how many times you use your throttle on the way down from a wheelie gone sideways...just think about not being able to throttle through it. Wait Wait! Make that actually!!!! I'll sell WAY more cages...and replacement cages AHHAHAHHAA
Think about how many times you use your throttle on the way down from a wheelie gone sideways...just think about not being able to throttle through it. Wait Wait! Make that actually!!!! I'll sell WAY more cages...and replacement cages AHHAHAHHAA
#23
Re: Anti-Loop Device electronic Safety Equiptment
it says the details of how it will work are still being worked out but if its any good it will just kill 1 or 2 cylinders once it gets past BP and fire them back up once it drops down again. no activating the brake or pulling the clutch or hitting the kill switch or anything crazy like that..it basicly just blips the throttle for you so you dont loop it i think
#24
Re: Anti-Loop Device electronic Safety Equiptment
Yeah it's possible, like segway stays at constant balance.But it needs gyros and electric motor at segway is a lot easier to control precisely then rear brake and engine output.
More simpler anti loop device is easier. There was one european stunt school, where anybody could go(if they payed) and they would teach you to wheelie. That bike had wheelie bar which was connected to switch that cut two cylinders out, when it got too high. also if it still went higher, the wheelie bar was connected to rear brake. But that ain't too pimp to drive around with massive wheelie bar.
I guess you could just turn your tip over sensor sideways, then tilt it so, that it cuts out if front gets too high. but it's gonna slam down hard.=not good.
Too many squids are looping they R1000/RR1000/R1's, manufacturers are going to make some device against it sooner or later.
JakeT
More simpler anti loop device is easier. There was one european stunt school, where anybody could go(if they payed) and they would teach you to wheelie. That bike had wheelie bar which was connected to switch that cut two cylinders out, when it got too high. also if it still went higher, the wheelie bar was connected to rear brake. But that ain't too pimp to drive around with massive wheelie bar.
I guess you could just turn your tip over sensor sideways, then tilt it so, that it cuts out if front gets too high. but it's gonna slam down hard.=not good.
Too many squids are looping they R1000/RR1000/R1's, manufacturers are going to make some device against it sooner or later.
JakeT
#25
Re: Anti-Loop Device electronic Safety Equiptment
The problem is this kid is late on this. Check out http://www.ononewheel.com/the_machine.php and see a device in action that works (went with my boy last year so he can learn how to wheelie) and it was kinda funny.....
1st stage cuts one cylinder off and the second stage, if going too high, lightly engages the rear brake....... After seeing a 62 year old guy rock sit down wheelies I had to go..... Well, after doing powerslides in our Eclipse rental down the track in Lakeland...
P.S. I think its patented also.....
P.S.S If we get to the point of having a real "wheelie" button, I am torching my bike...... That is gay...
Camo Mike
1st stage cuts one cylinder off and the second stage, if going too high, lightly engages the rear brake....... After seeing a 62 year old guy rock sit down wheelies I had to go..... Well, after doing powerslides in our Eclipse rental down the track in Lakeland...
P.S. I think its patented also.....
P.S.S If we get to the point of having a real "wheelie" button, I am torching my bike...... That is gay...
Camo Mike
#26
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Anti-Loop Device electronic Safety Equiptment
the details are being worked out and there is a lot more to it then most think... the speed, gear, and a lot of factors will go into this from what i have been told if they consider doing it... and the technology is available its just a matter of determining the best way to go about it...
i can imagine the R&D going into this is going to be months.. and a company willing to spend 15k plus in patents is not gonna put out a half *** device on the market that can be copied...
im thinking to myslef the guys that do 12's this would be worthless but to most guys that loop and spend 400-500 on just a side fairing its not a bad idea if it works the way its supposed to..
i can imagine the R&D going into this is going to be months.. and a company willing to spend 15k plus in patents is not gonna put out a half *** device on the market that can be copied...
im thinking to myslef the guys that do 12's this would be worthless but to most guys that loop and spend 400-500 on just a side fairing its not a bad idea if it works the way its supposed to..
#28
Re: Anti-Loop Device electronic Safety Equiptment
Should work just like the gyro control in a radio controled helicopter... it senses any movement (caused by wind in that case) and corrects it with very mild inputs to the servos... however, when any controls are input by the user it basically cuts out the gyro sensor.
I can see how this could be used for keeping a bike in a 12 position, have to set-up the bike to "fly by wire" and use a servo to control the throttle... when the bike dips and there is NO INPUT from the throttle hand it makes a very mild adjustment and increases the throttle till it senses the 12 position again... and so on... why anyone with any skills would want to pay for this... I have no clue... but if you want to pay for the R&D I'll mach one up for you with no gaurantees.
As for an anti-loop device... **** that, I say let the squids bite the pavement, perhaps they'll learn the lesson and never try again... that seems to work as a great anti re-looping device.
Just my
I can see how this could be used for keeping a bike in a 12 position, have to set-up the bike to "fly by wire" and use a servo to control the throttle... when the bike dips and there is NO INPUT from the throttle hand it makes a very mild adjustment and increases the throttle till it senses the 12 position again... and so on... why anyone with any skills would want to pay for this... I have no clue... but if you want to pay for the R&D I'll mach one up for you with no gaurantees.
As for an anti-loop device... **** that, I say let the squids bite the pavement, perhaps they'll learn the lesson and never try again... that seems to work as a great anti re-looping device.
Just my
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post