Do you picturr it entertwined into the world of XSBA and the stunt riding industry, or do u see it slowly building its own industry and branching off with the other sports like freestyle motorcross?
If u look at it like this in every main stream sport u always have the rebels, castaways or the badboyz of the sport. Take motorcross for example, you have your freestyle guys and your racer guys, as in streetbikes u have road racers then u have stunt riders if u think about it its the same thing. I was reading a post it was a recent post, about Darius's Serving It Up video about a main big store took all stunt riding videos off the shelves? Why? Because some customer complained and wrote a letter to some big wig somewhere. Why are they just pin pointing the stunt riders, you dont think a kid will do the same thing if he watched a freestyle motorcross tape ?????????? Who knows the future of this whole stunt riding if uncertain, I think along with whats going on now we need to distance ourselves

If u have anything else to add or if u agree please feel free to reply


Thanks
J

 

You can't compare freestyle MX with street stunting. You don't see them trying to build freestyle jumps on public roads. If you are standing too close to a freestyle jump and get hurt, it's on you. Street stunting endangers the innocent. Common sense.
As for the future, you can't **** off the general public because for this "sport" to be successful, those are the people you need on your side.

 

posted by TrikChik:
I have seen the MX freestyle guys putting ramps next to public roads... and jumping over the roads.... LOL

 

I agree with Trikchik

 

ya but i have a question--- are we big enough to stop all street stunting and still build a fan base and get more people to shows??????????????????????????????????????????.

answer how ya want but you know what the truth is. not quite yet. we have not had enopugh time to grow as a sport. dont get me wrong i can feel it in my heart that it is coming.

places to practice like tracks and such are all good but you have to remember that not everyone is as lucky as you to have that opertunity or even have the money to pay to practice every time. so unless you start building a "stunt track" down the road from me and others for every other stunter without the same "luck" as you and arent gonna charge anyone to use it then im sorry but this spring ill see ya on the backroads cause i got practiceing to do

just my 2 pennies
lata
psyco

 

There's a certain amount of people who will never give stunnas any credit. Now that the tricks are getting bigger and the sport is more mainstream, more people are beginning to recognize...

But guys like CrazyJ who have been in the game for a long time know what it's all about. They remember when you couldn't ride a wheelie in a parking lot without getting blasted by some safety ****....

It's an outlaw sport, if u stay true to the game it will always be. How many of you still run from the cops? I'd say most of us....

The xsba and world src are fine. It gives the real mad stunnas a place to decide who's got the best game. And it sets the bar....

But the heart of stunt riding is still where it's always been, backroads, industrial parks and even freeways whether u like it or not....
-jason

 

as I see it, stunt riding will never be "HUGE" with the general public, and stunt riding will always be on public roads, even if there are venues that will open there doors for legal stunt riding practice. Its like street racing. Part of it is the thrill of racing on public roads, part of it is knowing you're getting away with something you're not supposed to do. Even though there are more places for them to go race legally, those places cost money, and you have to wait your turn, and part of the thrill is gone for various reasons. There will be the legit competitions and shows.....and there will be the illegal practice on the streets. Who knows? I'm not a ****** psychic, just my .02

Lata

 

Back country roads and industrial parks are not in traffic. I practiced today on a back road in an industrial park for a couple of hours and never saw one car. The industrial park is an hour from my house and I drive almost two hours to get to the dragstrip to practice.

 

i'll probably get flamed for saying this but it's my opinion. i don't feel that stunt riding will get all that much larger. i think that it will change shape but in my mind i don't see it "blowing up" i honestly don't think that the general public embraces us enough to make this sport as large as some people hope and dream. doing stunts on the streets reiforces to the general public that we are wreckless and careless (weather thats the case or not). yes we have all gotten the thumbs up for a wheelie, but for every cheer there are five maybe ten people that saw the exact same stunt and cursed you in their mind and would never buy one of our videos. on the other hand look how much it has grown in the last few years, i guess i just see it coming to a plateu. for me i will continue to stunt (shows this summer) and i hope we can make this sport as big as everyone dreams! my .02

 

A few of my personal predictions and observations:

* The ratio of stunt-riders to regular riders will continue to rise
* New stunts that require more skill will continue to be invented
* The (smaller portion of the) general public will continue to make an outcry to law enforcement to rid the streets of stunt riding
* The general public will also continue to support the sport with thumbs up on the road, and money for the videos
* Bikes will continue to be more and more capable for stunting (more horsepower, easier throttle control, better brakes, lighter, faster, etc)

As some people are realizing, one of the things that makes this sport so attractive to get into is that it is very easy to do 100mph+ wheelies without crashing, and yet the average person assumes that it is very difficult. As long as those two things continue to be true, there will be a constant influx of new stunt riders who spend the $10K + 2 weeks of practice to get a thumbs up on the road so that they too can feel like a professional rider of some sort.

It is easy to consider the sport as it relates to the increase of horsepower. GSXR750, GSXR1000, 929/954. These bikes enable the sport in a sense. If it were as hard to do 100mph wheelies as it is to do bicycle wheelies, I don't think the sport would be where it is right now. But with any one of these bikes, and a little guts, doing high speed wheelies is easy.

I know a lot of guys on here might think that the stunt videos on the market define what average people think about the stunt community. My opinion is that average people only know what they hear from word of mouth and also what they see first hand (freeway wheelies).

So in that sense, I think freeway wheelies are currently defining the public's opinion of the stunt culture. And to some extent the general public is encouraging that culture with the thumbs up and the "do a wheelie" hand signal and verbal requests. It happens more now than ever.

And also, every squid wanna be doing 2nd gear rev-limiter 100mph+ wheelies is in the same category as you guys doing circle wheelies. In fact, the circle wheelie guys are in the category of "who cares" to the general public, I think.

So if you want to credit someone with the sport, give due credit to those guys on the road who ask sportbikers to do a wheelie. They are the ones that are responsible for the sport. Because without their interest in seeing it, there would be much less interest in anyone doing it, and no money to make videos of people doing it.

Go do a wheelie on a mountain bike and see how many people care. Nobody cares. And not coincidentally, there are no videos of people doing wheelies on mountain bikes. Ironically, it's about 10 times harder than doing it on a sportbike.

The point: without interest from the general public, you have nada. And/or the public is defining the sport .. NOT the riders. The riders are merely slaves to their respective audiences.

So as long as the general public doesn't understand how easy and relatively safe it is, it WILL get bigger.

But the hard-core stunters represented on this website are generally a small subset of the entire stunt culture which includes generally anybody doing any kind of 1-wheel activity on public roads.

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- Ahigh

 

You practiced today!
damn I hate that snow stuff!


Heat where the heat at!

Anyway my two cents is........


.......from a nonbias view everyone so far has a great point to their reply.
Jason - origin of this is back roads and the basic city street
J - yeah I see what you're sayin with eveyone being like two groups
Chik - yes and no on that comparison but you are right on pissing people off!
Ted - we will have to see and if we don't **** people off and get that fan base/market we will see something hopefully
A fresh - word of mouth and what they see and know, there is only a fraction of the public that is aware of all the techniques and styles that can be achieved on these machines.

For real everyone has a really good point that I agree w and that I will support however only time will tell!

 

I like what Duk said when I was in Fla. he was like-"I want this (stunting) to be whereI can see you(to Dan Jackson) once a month around the country"

 

Stunt riding will never be like freestyle motocross. The sport for the average guy to get into costs 2 much money. Its not like when you drop a dirtbike you cant pick it up in the dirt. With plastics and all the bs, on a big bike youre fucked when you drop it on the concrete. People say stunting is crazy as **** and only mad men do it. Well its just like racing at the core. Whoever has the biggest ***** normally wins. Not many people are the best at stunting or ridng fast but a lot of people could do em both if they got the *****. Stunting is always gonna be the red headed step child of motorcycling. People say yeah its cool to watch but i would never do it. Stunting is an oddity. It will get bigger but only by the people who will watch it. It will never have major sponsorship and never be a corporate thing. I like stunting the way it is now. Teams have to build a name for themselves by selling the craziest ****. Thats what people want to see. They want to see crashes and people endagering their lives. Thats not how i see it. I see stunting as a way of having fun with your friends or showing off youre coolest trick. when i ride im focused on what im doing right then and on nothing else. Stunting and riding fast is an escape for me. I only see the now. Nothing wlse on my mind just adrenaline and fun. Thats all im looking for on my bike!

 

Anyone see the documentary about the Z-Boys and Dog Town on Cinimax??? Hopefully Stunting will blow up like Skating did. Its still a young Sport for this country...but growing up without growing pains is gonna be the hard part.

 

that thing with the cop car running into the rock is schweeeeeet