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Old 12-09-2004 | 08:12 PM
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i think its all in the marketing of the vid- people need to see it before they buy it. a good trailer is key.

second its the reputation- but this is just marketing again. sell yourself, you will sell dvds.

and we are the wrong people to sell you stuff to, because we see just about everything thats going on in the industry on a daily basis.

the only time i buy dvds is if im at a show, thats it. ftp4, sui3, get on up 2, etc.... look like some of the best stunt dvds ever made, but i wont buy them unless i see them at a show simply because i dont feel like paying 25 for the dvd and then another 10 for shipping.
Old 12-09-2004 | 09:36 PM
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depends on the riders, music, and the still shots on the cover on the video if i've never heard of them. I love supporting stunt riding. I buy a crap load of videos.
turnoffs: stupid skits, wack *** tracks, and out dated stunts.(you know, side skitching and what not....lol)

That is one reason why i like posting on this site. You get to talk to and read posts of the people we buy videos from. You get to learn if they're cool or if they are plain ********. I've saved a few bucks just from seeing who's the ******** and not buying their ****.
Old 12-09-2004 | 10:10 PM
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Revolution 20 o bore!!! Wow you're the one who bought it! I fell asleep before the start of the second segment. I say that with all seriousness. Music is as much of an element as the riding or footage.


I like to be entertained plain and simple, hands down the best bike video I have ever seen is 50 Nuts. Best money I ever spent on a video. Great music, awesome crash footage, hot chicks, drunken mayhem, the video kicks *** and I don't give a **** about 50s at all. To me 50 are a novelty and I'd rather not spend the money on one, but everytime I get done watching that video it makes me want to go buy one. Hmm maybe I should big bar kit, larger foot pegs, 88 kit, aftermarket exhaust, stiffer suspension...
Screw that can I just crash yours?


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Kind of like revolution 04. Britton and Hoenshell can ride circles around anybody, but that video was a little repetitive. I hope Brittons new video payed attention to the critics.
Old 12-10-2004 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan Cramer
the market you should hit is Males age 12-17, or kids in general. their parents have money, kids like **** like this...their parents have the buying power....not broke *** stunters and their buddies.
THIS IS JUST MY OPINION: unless you start selling videos in auctual stores (best buy for example) the odds of you getting that market is very slim, only way i can see you getting a good profit out of the non-stunters market is if you do ALOT of advertising

as for me, i fall into the poor/broke catagory, and when i do have money it dosent matter because i dont have a credit card, and when i mention using my grandparents credit card, they act as if i just asked to use their car in a demolition derby, most people i ask if i can use a check eather say no, or never respond, and that **** takes WAAAAYYYYY long when i pay by check anyway.

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Old 12-10-2004 | 03:33 AM
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Stone Films and I are putting a film togother as we speak. Hopefully there will be a trailer by next week and a release date by feb or march.
If you are looking for a film with tons of crashes,drunk people,**** on fire,
hellicopters, and fancy stuff like that Do NOT BUY the new Tony D film.
BUT
If you are interested in some great riding in a lot of cool places with a bunch of great stories that highlight the good and bad moments of 2004 for me,and meet the real Tony D,not the ******** on MTV, this is the one to see...
peace
Old 12-10-2004 | 06:08 AM
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can't wait man.. thought you rocked in Amsterdam for sum sweet 5 minutes.. thanks!
Old 12-11-2004 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gundamms07b
music first.

I can't stand to watch a video with some shitty rap. GOOD rap ont he other hand is cool, like OM's use of "sly boogie"

but it's mainly heavy metal that attracts me. About a year ago i bought my first stunt DVD, "road rage 2" basically, the three segments i liked was the DTE, SF, and the last segment of SBF. they had music i liked, and i could "jam" too.
good point, everytime i hear certain songs and I've heard them in stunt dvd's i immediatly think of that vid, so music is very important :YEAH
Old 12-11-2004 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan Cramer
No Offense, but stunt riders are not the market that most teams would like to sell there videos too, for many reasons

1. You all are mostly poor, broke, or your head is to big to shell out 25 dollars to support another team
2. You expect the DVD's for free, so instead of offering to buy first, you ask for a free copy first.
3. You all think your better than everyone else, so when you buy or get your hands on a dvd you instantly criticize it and bash it or tell people it sux
4. You dont even bother cause your jealous that your DVD isnt out yet.

dont get me wrong i love this sport and everybody involved with it, i love to watch all of you ride, but in my opinion , you guyz are not the ones i would try and sell my dvd too,

You guyz have to look at the bigger picture,

the market you should hit is Males age 12-17, or kids in general. their parents have money, kids like **** like this...their parents have the buying power....not broke *** stunters and their buddies.

good point ryan, but i was just putting this here so people could voice their opinion and what not ya know
Old 12-11-2004 | 10:24 PM
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Re: Your Opinoin Matters.......

Originally Posted by Tony D
Stone Films and I are putting a film togother as we speak. Hopefully there will be a trailer by next week and a release date by feb or march.
If you are looking for a film with tons of crashes,drunk people,**** on fire,
hellicopters, and fancy stuff like that Do NOT BUY the new Tony D film.
BUT
If you are interested in some great riding in a lot of cool places with a bunch of great stories that highlight the good and bad moments of 2004 for me,and meet the real Tony D,not the ******** on MTV, this is the one to see...
peace

I've been bankin on this DVD all year. :YEAH
Old 12-11-2004 | 11:00 PM
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i laugh when i hear all this talk about music....lame

im in it for the rider(s)....i sure dont base my buying a vid by what sound track they have...

i CANT stand the jack *** ****..ur not funny to me....MAYBE when im drunk and high outta my mind at 4am...but just like the music...i didnt buy the vid for u to try to be funny....no biggie...im over it..do ur thing...but more than 8 mins of it..really sucks bad.

streets are very important to me...we all know the lot gets old.
i do like to see some lots and what u can really do....but dont beat it to death...and if u have to stay in a lot...go to different ones....change is important.

and im not the one or 5 video collector...30+ here

but this sub is beat up...we do this one 6 times a year.
Old 12-11-2004 | 11:26 PM
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i choose by what everybody else always talks about...ie FTP and Servin it Up

basically the vid's that sell best, I buy. Cuz they must be the best
Old 12-12-2004 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie
i laugh when i hear all this talk about music....lame

im in it for the rider(s)....i sure dont base my buying a vid by what sound track they have...
ok that's about enough from the peanut gallery
Old 12-21-2004 | 06:39 PM
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Re: Your Opinoin Matters.......

Originally Posted by Tony D
Stone Films and I are putting a film togother as we speak. Hopefully there will be a trailer by next week and a release date by feb or march.
If you are looking for a film with tons of crashes,drunk people,**** on fire,
hellicopters, and fancy stuff like that Do NOT BUY the new Tony D film.
BUT
If you are interested in some great riding in a lot of cool places with a bunch of great stories that highlight the good and bad moments of 2004 for me,and meet the real Tony D,not the ******** on MTV, this is the one to see...
peace
Yeah. Meet the real Tony ********...I mean D...I mean... uh, dick d tony *****. Whatever. hahaha! Just ****in with you Ant. I haven't been on here in too long. Gotta make up for it. I'm waiting for a ****in flash menu to load and it's taking too damn long.
Old 12-21-2004 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by godslayer
Not really. How much do you think it costs to make a run of only 1000 DVD's? I know the answer and at a retail of $26 you are seeing a markup of over 1700%. And no, there are no extra zero's in there. Now I know there are additional costs involved in marketing and pre-production but not enough to justify the 1700% markup. I have about 15 DVD's on my shelf and there are a few that I dont think are worth half of what I paid and there are a select few that are watched weekly and were well worth the cash paid out. I respect a guy, or a group, trying to make a living off of this but with costs of merchandise as marked up as they are it is really tough for me to justify the purchase of anything, from anyone, unless I know all of what I am getting beforehand, regardless of what any "unbiased" review says.

All that said, I say PRICE and TRAILER are the main selling points for me.
don't take this the wrong way but you are wrong. cameras cost money, video tape cost money, music licencing cost money(ha ha), travel costs money, the artwork, the printing of the artwork, the packaging costs money, an editor or an edit sytem costs money, the tickets that you will get along the way cost money, hospital bills costs money, bike parts costs money. and vendor space to sale the video costs money. Unless you have a distibutor than your unit price is $2 to $12.50. The highest selling stunt video I have heard so far is 35,000 units and the distributor sold most of them.
it's true that the dvd replication is about $1.10 to $2.00 a unit but you have to have something to put on the dvd.
and to answer the question the most important choice for me in buying a video is in person from the people who made it. I have bought too many over the internet and waited months for them. I will probably buy everything produced this year at the NY IMS in january. and if I pay for a video I never pay more than $20.
Old 12-21-2004 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hot magma
don't take this the wrong way but you are wrong. cameras cost money, video tape cost money, music licencing cost money(ha ha), travel costs money, the artwork, the printing of the artwork, the packaging costs money, an editor or an edit sytem costs money, the tickets that you will get along the way cost money, hospital bills costs money, bike parts costs money. and vendor space to sale the video costs money. Unless you have a distibutor than your unit price is $2 to $12.50. The highest selling stunt video I have heard so far is 35,000 units and the distributor sold most of them.
it's true that the dvd replication is about $1.10 to $2.00 a unit but you have to have something to put on the dvd.
and to answer the question the most important choice for me in buying a video is in person from the people who made it. I have bought too many over the internet and waited months for them. I will probably buy everything produced this year at the NY IMS in january. and if I pay for a video I never pay more than $20.
If you are in it for the money, then you had better put out some top quality ****. If your **** is garbage (1/2 of the stunt videos I own...including some from "big name" producers) then you need to get it to the buyer to help build your name, not your wallet. I have $1,000's invested in video equipment, computer, sofware, tapes, travel, etc. Music is free from local bands willing to help put their own name out there too. All said, my work is nowhere near the caliber of some of my favorite videos and I never expect to surpass them. I may be as good as the pro editors some day but as long as I am doing it for fun then I'll "give it away" in hopes of having my video on another persons shelf. You want a copy of my video, shoot me an email and maybe we'll swap or if I know you I'll get it to you for free (just shipping of course).

I speak from experience and love, not some googled information.
Old 12-21-2004 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by godslayer
If you are in it for the money, then you had better put out some top quality ****. If your **** is garbage (1/2 of the stunt videos I own...including some from "big name" producers) then you need to get it to the buyer to help build your name, not your wallet. I have $1,000's invested in video equipment, computer, sofware, tapes, travel, etc. Music is free from local bands willing to help put their own name out there too. All said, my work is nowhere near the caliber of some of my favorite videos and I never expect to surpass them. I may be as good as the pro editors some day but as long as I am doing it for fun then I'll "give it away" in hopes of having my video on another persons shelf. You want a copy of my video, shoot me an email and maybe we'll swap or if I know you I'll get it to you for free (just shipping of course).

I speak from experience and love, not some googled information.
I don't want to offend you, but I was speaking from experience I made 2 stunt videos, and I made them both out of the love of motorcycles, not to be become rich not to show anyone up just for the fun of it. I own and operate a production company that produces/shoots/edits mostly in HD 1080/60i and 720/60p, in addition I freelance edit and shoot for the 5 largest media companies in the world. I've been in this business for 12 years and doing wheelies since 1976 so everything I wrote was all first hand knowledge.
Old 12-21-2004 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Beto
oh yeah and put up a sick trailer but make it short, no more than 2 minutes, have everyone that watches it wanting more.....
I disagree. Look at Outermost, they have hour long trailers, and have the most anticipated dvd right now.
Old 12-21-2004 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sclevela
that wasnt the real tony d?
IM a ******** sometimes, but not ALL the time!!LOL



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