Eclipse

Hey BigRed-Neck thanx for your insults. Perfect example of how wars start! Do you really enjoy makin it that personal? You dont know me and I dont know you or Vert. Who knows maybe both of you came to my bash a few years ago and had some beer together. All Im sayin is I have my reasons for why I think things are suckin and will get worse. You have your reasons why you think things are the way they are. You want to dis someone for why they dislike the man in charge of this Nation I have that right. We could both look like children with name sayin all day long but I feel I made it clear as to how I feel about the Gov as of today and the views of Bush. Thats it thats all I tried to share. I knew people would have there say as well. You wanna hate me for it? Then who is the retard? If I have insulted your President then I am awfully sorry big guy. We could always meet up for a brew and chew the fat about it in person if you wanna be civil about it. Ehh anyway I am sure I'll hear some more about it.

Brian_C6

On a side note....
It amazes me how 2 sided this country has become. I find myself in the middle A LOT of the time so I find myself seeing things from both sides. I think many people take sides based on social issues like, stem cell research, abortion, gay rights, gun laws, individual rights, and equate them with positions on the war in iraq, capital gain laws, tax structure, economic structure, etc. These are very different things and sometimes I fear people take sides without thinking deep enough. Opinions on abortion, gun laws, gay rights, and stem cell research will not pay the bills or fuel a struggling economy. We tend to form an overall opinion based on topics that only have face value.

Brian

bigred875

true...that was more for me then him.. there is nothing that can get through that thick skull....'cept micheal moore...

Things arent black and white...he is not completely wrong...but not even close to being right...thats one thing I have found out with following politics...you never get the full story from one side...you need to check both sides....

people like him form their opinions first then find the facts to back them up...thats the wrong way to go about it...

Brian_C6

D I C K W A D

Let's start a thread that has nothing but insulting names.... see how funny it gets. I bet we get some pretty interesting terms.

Brian

verticaljay

I have learned over the years to read the story, do some research and then form my opinion. There is a ton of gray areas on every issue and not one person can be to blame for any specific issue.

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/...es/P128021.asp

In response to the lack of aritcle on the crude vs gas issue. We are in for it. I am putting my stuntbike on the road. or 50

Eclipse

FYI Little Red I hate Mike Moore I think he is an ***! So pass more judgement on me ***! One thing I do agree with you about. Is there are alot of people that talk about somthing or someone they dont even know. Internet must have a way of bigball syndrome. Cuz ya got some talkin to me like that simply because of how I inturpret this country as of now. Nice chattin with ya though you are really amusin. Keep it up fuzznuts..now its your turn. And on and on and on and on.

Brian_C6

same here. My stuntbike will look a bit prettier after this weekend.

bigred875

lol.ok GUY like you didnt start with the names...

and actually it does make me feel a little better..how about yourself?

right..but your reasons are based on propaganda from the left..not on reality... you tell us we are brainwashed..what are you? You beleive everything comming out of the left and nothing from the right...and you think you have an informed opinion... I'm not saying some of the things you say are 100% false nor am I sitting here trying to say W hasnt made any mistakes... because you bet you *** he has..just not for the reasons you beleive....the president had to go to war with Iraq it was his constitutional duty...he was presented with an emminat threat and needed to act....it's what he has done since that has been the problem...

you are right...and i have the right to comment the way i see fit..

i dont hate anyone..just hate when someone refuses to see the other side of the arguement... If you would take a look at the big picture and see how things go down you would see that a lot of you conspiracy theories dont hold any water once you dig below the surface of the rhetoric
i did vote for him lesser of 2 evil's Kerry would have been way worse..imo.. He had no strategy for Iraq and is a socalist. on another note Bush really steps up to the plate when these natural disaters occur.....watch him during this...

If you really want to hate Bush I'll give you some ammo...ask him why oil compaines are operating at the highest profit margins in history...ask him why he is allowing them to gouge the prices during this crisis...

As of late the only reason for the increase is fear and greed.... fear of there not being enough oil, not enough refineries to make gas...etc etc.. Will it hurt with those refineries down? Yup...but not enough to raise the price of gas $.50 in a day...

Take Atl for instance...they are seeing what..$4 a gallon..$4.99 I think i heard...they dont even get there gas from refineries in the US..it all comes by ship....

More ammo against Bush...ask him when the hell he is going to take this immigration problem seriously....when is he going to tax compaines who do not offer full benefits and tax breaks to compaines that do... the list goes on and on....dont get me started...lol

bigred875

ah..ok

hessogood

I agree with some pieces of some things that some people have said here. Unfortunately for you all, I hate every bag of dueche with an opinion that does not match mine exactly.

Bigred will support anything that resembles republican thoughts or actions and would probably suck Bush's **** if G.W said it was good for the country.

Eclipse

Now see what ya did Biggy you gone an made Hessogood upset. There goes the neighborhood.

TEACH C6

didnt read any of it. bomb the world and take their oil. buy and sell unlicensed guns, kill babies and old people, and sell crack at schools.....i care, but not that much.

hessofinallyhadhisslidersordered: they are ordered and will ship hopefully by sat or even tomm. finally did it early tyhis morning

morrow

arent u a teacher.......im glad my kid aint in your class........

Brian_C6

teach... wtf. call me.

hessogood

awesome, where do I pay and pick 'em up? Good think I held off on that call to street and comp this morning to have them bring a set to the track for me.

bigred875

this is not true... well if it was for the good of the coutry MAYBE

PavementEater

weird thread.

Eclipse

Hey Big Red and Vert, not sure if this what would be called "proof" of anything other than the facts of Bush's choices in changin policies that have helped in the devastation of New Orleans. Im sure both of you will criticise it but these are as you so adventagiously requested the facts.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/090105Q.shtml


Have a great weekend!

bigred875

actually thats an editorial...an opinion with some facts thrown in...but I'll bite...

this is another case of the left collecting half truths to prove a point they are trying to make...
I'm not going to sit here and try and tell you Bush is better for the economy then any democrat out there.... but that isnt high on my list of priorites at the moment...i'm more concern with national security and the economy.. but my environmental views are democratic..for the most part..
...last year
two months ago?

New Orleans was a problem way before Bush was even a sparkle in his Daddy's eyes. Parts of CA are going to fall of the earth at some point too... now unless he focuses 100% on saving that place would that be his fault as well?

give blame where it is due....check your pms

Skunky

God Damn "BOTTLE NECKS"