Long Endos,,,,,hey Bri Dte
10-26-2002, 04:36 PM
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Long Endos,,,,,hey Bri Dte
whats up bri,,,,,got a question,,,,,but heres my scoop first,,,,,i got a gixxesr 675,,,all 750 but the motor...LOL,,,,anyways,,,,i got stock fluid, pads, and lines,,,, i recently started practicing long endos,,now i used to run dot 5,,,,which im going back to,,,but im rollin 200 footers now,,,,and i was wandering how you set up your FORKS,,,,,like did you make em stiffer,,softer,,,,whateva,,,,i guess when i tried along time ago, i just fucked it up,,,,one sider was higher than the other,,,what have you ,,and i was still rollin 200,,,,,so i wanted to set up the forks to see if it would help,,,,got any suggestions?????MR. STOPPIE KING......lol,,,i figured i ask ya,,,,let me know......thanx
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10-27-2002, 04:57 AM
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You don't need to modify anything to do stoppies!
You should be able to do 300+ feet with stock everything. I don't even run braided lines...and I usually have at least one blown fork seal at all times...I dont' even replace them anymore...
Johnny
You should be able to do 300+ feet with stock everything. I don't even run braided lines...and I usually have at least one blown fork seal at all times...I dont' even replace them anymore...
Johnny
10-27-2002, 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by DTE
You don't need to modify anything to do stoppies!
You should be able to do 300+ feet with stock everything. I don't even run braided lines...and I usually have at least one blown fork seal at all times...I dont' even replace them anymore...
Johnny
You don't need to modify anything to do stoppies!
You should be able to do 300+ feet with stock everything. I don't even run braided lines...and I usually have at least one blown fork seal at all times...I dont' even replace them anymore...
Johnny
10-27-2002, 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by DTE
You don't need to modify anything to do stoppies!
You should be able to do 300+ feet with stock everything. I don't even run braided lines...and I usually have at least one blown fork seal at all times...I dont' even replace them anymore...
Johnny
You don't need to modify anything to do stoppies!
You should be able to do 300+ feet with stock everything. I don't even run braided lines...and I usually have at least one blown fork seal at all times...I dont' even replace them anymore...
Johnny
thanx
dv8ryan
10-27-2002, 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by DV8Ronnie
ok,,,,so let me ask you is there a hump to get over once you get to a sertain distance,,,,,cause i mean our road SUX,,,,,,my line is 2 feet from the grass and the pavement dips down then up , so i know im losin speed and distance, but the pavement is perfect,,,,,just really uneven,,,,,,and it hooks up in the cold weather really good after i get my tires warmed up,,,,,,so i know i can roll well over 200,,,,,,but is there like a huge hump to get over to go farther??
thanx
dv8ryan
ok,,,,so let me ask you is there a hump to get over once you get to a sertain distance,,,,,cause i mean our road SUX,,,,,,my line is 2 feet from the grass and the pavement dips down then up , so i know im losin speed and distance, but the pavement is perfect,,,,,just really uneven,,,,,,and it hooks up in the cold weather really good after i get my tires warmed up,,,,,,so i know i can roll well over 200,,,,,,but is there like a huge hump to get over to go farther??
thanx
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10-27-2002, 12:36 PM
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I have stock everything too. Stock pads, stock lines, stock calipers. The only thing I can think of that may be different is the front fork compression setting. Everyone who rides my bike says it feels "soft". Do you know what I mean? When I hit the front brakes my forks compress more than everyone else's. I think this helps with Tank Slap for two reasons...
1. Less fork length to flex.
2. Front wheel / contact patch doesn't extend as far back in relation to the rest of the bike. Someone with fully extended forks may need to be higher up in the stoppie to acheive the same balance point.
I honestly have no friggin clue why I never get tank slap but these reasons are the only thing I can think of. I think tank slap somehow happens due to rider postition / style.
Maybe this helps....maybe it doesn't. Who friggin knows. Everyone has their own reasons / definitions.
Lata,
Bri
1. Less fork length to flex.
2. Front wheel / contact patch doesn't extend as far back in relation to the rest of the bike. Someone with fully extended forks may need to be higher up in the stoppie to acheive the same balance point.
I honestly have no friggin clue why I never get tank slap but these reasons are the only thing I can think of. I think tank slap somehow happens due to rider postition / style.
Maybe this helps....maybe it doesn't. Who friggin knows. Everyone has their own reasons / definitions.
Lata,
Bri
10-27-2002, 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by bri_dte
I have stock everything too. Stock pads, stock lines, stock calipers. The only thing I can think of that may be different is the front fork compression setting. Everyone who rides my bike says it feels "soft". Do you know what I mean? When I hit the front brakes my forks compress more than everyone else's. I think this helps with Tank Slap for two reasons...
1. Less fork length to flex.
2. Front wheel / contact patch doesn't extend as far back in relation to the rest of the bike. Someone with fully extended forks may need to be higher up in the stoppie to acheive the same balance point.
I honestly have no friggin clue why I never get tank slap but these reasons are the only thing I can think of. I think tank slap somehow happens due to rider postition / style.
Maybe this helps....maybe it doesn't. Who friggin knows. Everyone has their own reasons / definitions.
Lata,
Bri
I have stock everything too. Stock pads, stock lines, stock calipers. The only thing I can think of that may be different is the front fork compression setting. Everyone who rides my bike says it feels "soft". Do you know what I mean? When I hit the front brakes my forks compress more than everyone else's. I think this helps with Tank Slap for two reasons...
1. Less fork length to flex.
2. Front wheel / contact patch doesn't extend as far back in relation to the rest of the bike. Someone with fully extended forks may need to be higher up in the stoppie to acheive the same balance point.
I honestly have no friggin clue why I never get tank slap but these reasons are the only thing I can think of. I think tank slap somehow happens due to rider postition / style.
Maybe this helps....maybe it doesn't. Who friggin knows. Everyone has their own reasons / definitions.
Lata,
Bri
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10-28-2002, 12:49 PM
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ry,
dont listen to these fools, first off bri tried puttin atf in his forks. johnny told bri to only buy one fork seal too!! they are idiots!! lol
redo your forks with the correct weight and volume. the volume is the most important. the heavier the weight the slower the fork reaction. you have to mess with your own suspension settings to find out what works best for you. i would suggest starting at the midpoints for compression and rebound. preload will stiffen up the springs but has nothing to do with the actual dampening of the forks. only adjust one thing at a time and TAKE NOTES! try two clicks at a time just to see how it feels.
i have 954 calipers and stock everythign else, i dont know that it makes a difference, but i think they might work better bc they are newer and cleaner.
tank slap oftentimes results bc of a bad tire. avons are sticky as hell but when they get worn much past say, 60% they wobble. if your forks arent straight, you might get some wobble. the reason bri doesnt get any is two fold: 1. he is strong and can control the bike. 2. his tail isnt as high as some others, watch the tape of jason from evasive actions getting wobble and you will see that he is way over the front. the only way to get out of a wobble is to bring the rear tire lower, not higher.
roads to make a difference.
when you change your fork fluid, might as well do BOTH seals and do your slider bushings too, you need a front stand and just loosen the triple clamps and the clip-ons to slide the tubes out. if you dont wanna do this, just SLIGHTLY loosen the triple clamp bolts and straighten the wheel (like you used to do to bicycles)
hope this helps,
Teach
ps. lock your arms and use your shoulders to steer.
dont listen to these fools, first off bri tried puttin atf in his forks. johnny told bri to only buy one fork seal too!! they are idiots!! lol
redo your forks with the correct weight and volume. the volume is the most important. the heavier the weight the slower the fork reaction. you have to mess with your own suspension settings to find out what works best for you. i would suggest starting at the midpoints for compression and rebound. preload will stiffen up the springs but has nothing to do with the actual dampening of the forks. only adjust one thing at a time and TAKE NOTES! try two clicks at a time just to see how it feels.
i have 954 calipers and stock everythign else, i dont know that it makes a difference, but i think they might work better bc they are newer and cleaner.
tank slap oftentimes results bc of a bad tire. avons are sticky as hell but when they get worn much past say, 60% they wobble. if your forks arent straight, you might get some wobble. the reason bri doesnt get any is two fold: 1. he is strong and can control the bike. 2. his tail isnt as high as some others, watch the tape of jason from evasive actions getting wobble and you will see that he is way over the front. the only way to get out of a wobble is to bring the rear tire lower, not higher.
roads to make a difference.
when you change your fork fluid, might as well do BOTH seals and do your slider bushings too, you need a front stand and just loosen the triple clamps and the clip-ons to slide the tubes out. if you dont wanna do this, just SLIGHTLY loosen the triple clamp bolts and straighten the wheel (like you used to do to bicycles)
hope this helps,
Teach
ps. lock your arms and use your shoulders to steer.
10-28-2002, 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by chrisdte
ry,
dont listen to these fools, first off bri tried puttin atf in his forks. johnny told bri to only buy one fork seal too!! they are idiots!! lol
ry,
dont listen to these fools, first off bri tried puttin atf in his forks. johnny told bri to only buy one fork seal too!! they are idiots!! lol
Tara
. LMAO!! jk teach... but you still can stoppie over 150ft. 
10-28-2002, 02:29 PM
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thanx this all helps cause right now im obsessed with getting longer stoppies, ronnie can attest to that , we go out and ride and i instantly go to the stoppie road and ill be there for hours, but im gonna save this thread or something, or right it down when i get a chance,,thanx
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